Parents electively circumcising their infants is outrageous. But as bad as it is, it doesn’t do anywhere near the damage to the child that abortion does.
That’s an entirely separate issue. Im talking about the medicalization of circumcision cause by an anti sex christian craze in the victorian era whose after effects created a society that’s disgusted by the natural male body.
I guess you weren’t around in the USA in the 1960s when men and boys were required to swim nude in YMCA and school pools – even in high school competitive meets before an audience of mixed company. Believe me, there was no ‘disgust’ over the natural male body. Those mid-century “Victorians’ made sure we were exposed – full frontal – to one and all. And when it was over, all us guys showered together without giving it a second thought. Good times. As for an anti-sex Christian craze, remember 1967 – the famous Summer of Love through 1969 – Woodstock “nation.”. I think more cherries were lost those summers than any others before or since.
Inhibitions and hang-ups came later – with the coming of what Limbaugh called the Femi-Nazis, and the beginning of the LGBT civil rights movement when teenage boys, frightened of being labeled gay, refused to get naked together. It’s TODAY’S Victorians that are terrified of being nude. Boys, now, are scared to death of group showers. Heck, college kids don’t even ‘streak’ home games anymore.
I agree with you that women and boys deserve body autonomy – but only over their own. We, all of us, also deserve to live. I am delighted that you were not aborted.
There was PLENTY of disgust for the natural male body in 1960’s America, because at that YMCA I bet every one of those naked boys were circumcised. Those boys never experienced true nudity, because they never got to experience their full and natural bodies. Infant circumcision in a society shows a inherent disgust for the natural and pure, for self empowerment, and pride.
Im not even going to get into your boomer fairytale you call the Summer of Love.
The Real Horselips
Wheatfields,
Cut or uncut – when you’re nude, you’re nude. Circumcision was routine in the 1960s not because of disgust for the natural make body, but because physicians believed at the time it was more hygienic. I was left intact because I was born almost 2 months premature and nobody was comfortable cutting anything on me.
As for the Summer of Love – Google it. While you’re at it, Google “the sexual revolution.” I grew up in the best of times and the worst of times. Best for all the free love, worst for those drafted and sent to Vietnam. The politics and emotions surrounding circumcision weren’t issues back then. 98% of baby boys were cut, everybody looked the same (except me and I saw one other uncut boy in my school) and we all had other things on our minds.
The vast majority of the world didn’t circumcise in the 60’s even. Many European doctors had the SAME medical data American doctors had, yet they didn’t think circumcision was more hygienic. It comes down to a cultural belief, a disgust for the natural male form. Everything else was just an excuse.
Methinks you are applying today’s thoughts and beliefs to yesterday’s take on the subject. America wasn’t (and still isn’t) Europe or the rest of the world. The Old World, the New World, the Developing World and the Third Word all have the same data on healthcare, economics, politics, and so on, yet all have their individual ways of doing things.
Wow, I didn’t think that we were going to get into a debate on circumcision, abortion etc., gosh, you Americans can overcomplicate things. I just like the pictures of the boys.
How do you feel about circumcising aborted fetuses?
(Just kidding)
These pics are fascinating because when I was a teenage boy, hanging out at a swimming pool stark naked with lots of other boys and men was simply the way it was. The YMCA and many schools with pools forbade swimsuits on boys. You had to be there …
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Ill always have foreskin envy. Its time infant circumstances is made illegal.
Parents electively circumcising their infants is outrageous. But as bad as it is, it doesn’t do anywhere near the damage to the child that abortion does.
That’s an entirely separate issue. Im talking about the medicalization of circumcision cause by an anti sex christian craze in the victorian era whose after effects created a society that’s disgusted by the natural male body.
Women and boys deserve body autonomy.
I guess you weren’t around in the USA in the 1960s when men and boys were required to swim nude in YMCA and school pools – even in high school competitive meets before an audience of mixed company. Believe me, there was no ‘disgust’ over the natural male body. Those mid-century “Victorians’ made sure we were exposed – full frontal – to one and all. And when it was over, all us guys showered together without giving it a second thought. Good times. As for an anti-sex Christian craze, remember 1967 – the famous Summer of Love through 1969 – Woodstock “nation.”. I think more cherries were lost those summers than any others before or since.
Inhibitions and hang-ups came later – with the coming of what Limbaugh called the Femi-Nazis, and the beginning of the LGBT civil rights movement when teenage boys, frightened of being labeled gay, refused to get naked together. It’s TODAY’S Victorians that are terrified of being nude. Boys, now, are scared to death of group showers. Heck, college kids don’t even ‘streak’ home games anymore.
I agree with you that women and boys deserve body autonomy – but only over their own. We, all of us, also deserve to live. I am delighted that you were not aborted.
There was PLENTY of disgust for the natural male body in 1960’s America, because at that YMCA I bet every one of those naked boys were circumcised. Those boys never experienced true nudity, because they never got to experience their full and natural bodies. Infant circumcision in a society shows a inherent disgust for the natural and pure, for self empowerment, and pride.
Im not even going to get into your boomer fairytale you call the Summer of Love.
Wheatfields,
Cut or uncut – when you’re nude, you’re nude. Circumcision was routine in the 1960s not because of disgust for the natural make body, but because physicians believed at the time it was more hygienic. I was left intact because I was born almost 2 months premature and nobody was comfortable cutting anything on me.
As for the Summer of Love – Google it. While you’re at it, Google “the sexual revolution.” I grew up in the best of times and the worst of times. Best for all the free love, worst for those drafted and sent to Vietnam. The politics and emotions surrounding circumcision weren’t issues back then. 98% of baby boys were cut, everybody looked the same (except me and I saw one other uncut boy in my school) and we all had other things on our minds.
The vast majority of the world didn’t circumcise in the 60’s even. Many European doctors had the SAME medical data American doctors had, yet they didn’t think circumcision was more hygienic. It comes down to a cultural belief, a disgust for the natural male form. Everything else was just an excuse.
Methinks you are applying today’s thoughts and beliefs to yesterday’s take on the subject. America wasn’t (and still isn’t) Europe or the rest of the world. The Old World, the New World, the Developing World and the Third Word all have the same data on healthcare, economics, politics, and so on, yet all have their individual ways of doing things.
Wow, I didn’t think that we were going to get into a debate on circumcision, abortion etc., gosh, you Americans can overcomplicate things. I just like the pictures of the boys.
How do you feel about circumcising aborted fetuses?
(Just kidding)
These pics are fascinating because when I was a teenage boy, hanging out at a swimming pool stark naked with lots of other boys and men was simply the way it was. The YMCA and many schools with pools forbade swimsuits on boys. You had to be there …