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  1. I enjoyed this movie a lot, but it also sort of pissed me off a bit when I have to watch 2 guys who KNOW they are playing a gay role, but either because of their personal homophobic insecurities, or [quite likely] bad direction, pussyfoot around when they are to kiss each other. Too many movies are passed off as “gay” just because they [finally!] get a pair of lips to touch [i.e., peck like a chicken]. Witness this “strategy” in not just this scene, but nearly all gay scenes in movies, even today. The Fosters and Love, Simon are perfect examples of this [not to mention that they chose the wrong person as the “love interest” to ‘Simon’ and couldn’t even get the “story straight” with the voice-over emails] — they conveniently made them ‘kiss’ in positions with the camera angles behind or otherwise in a position to NOT SEE the actual lips during the kiss. But, no matter, the movie-going public is too damn stupid to notice “technical details” as long as the actors are, shall we say, “easy on the eyes.”

    Call Me By Your Name is [so far] a refreshing change in this politically correct homophobic trend — to a point.

  2. Also a pet peeve of mine. You can make a kiss look real without actually involving tongue — straight kissing almost never does. But I’ve seen two definitely straight actors go hot and heavy with the tongue as well. It’s called acting. (Can’t think of the specific scene I’m thinking of and am too old and tired to chase it down. Sorry.)

    1. Granted the straight, spit-swapping actors in the scene I was referring to were well into their 40’s.

  3. Penboy, always opening your big mouth and complaining about this or that!

    Jelle was only 15 years old there was probably only so much that could be put on screen if you want it shown in theaters. In fact he is openly gay (he has an Egyptian boyfriend). In Call Me By Your Name the actor Timo Chalamet was over 18.

    1. “Jelle was only 15 years old there was probably only so much that could be put on screen if you want it shown in theaters.”

      That statement shows just how fucking stupid you really are. They are PAID ACTORS and have been told of their roles. If THEY — THE ACTORS — didn’t want to kiss on screen (therefore, “in public”), they wouldn’t or shouldn’t have taken the roles to play GAY actors. There’s no fucking way in hell that that restriction would have been put to “heterosexual” roles — no matter their age. Age has no restriction to kiss someone “romantically” especially in Europe — and in particular, The Netherlands. Do you tell or otherwise “give in” to same-age PAID actors who play a heterosexual role? Of course not — and if you say they do, you’re a fucking LIAR.

      I’m just surprised you didn’t come up with some absolute hogwash about feminism, you’re so fucking brainwashed with that bullshit.

      1. Is it even legal to kiss someone erotically if they’re under 18 (or 21?), in uhmerica, or to orchestrate it? *In particular* if they’re paid. Sounds like a certain path to 1000+ years in prison (minus two years for good behaviour!).

        And claiming that the Netherlands is any different from the US… did you just come here in a time machine? The Netherlands of today isn’t like the Netherlands of the 1970s or even 1990s. They’ve become a perfect copy of your great nation.

        1. All I need to say is this:

          “Is it even legal to kiss someone erotically if they’re under 18 (or 21?)”

          cancels out this:

          “And claiming that the Netherlands is any different from the US… did you just come here in a time machine?”

          Can you get any more stupid?

          1. How are they cancelling each other?

  4. And I’ll say, I think it’s a pretty realistic scene. I think about it often. I hear Jelle likes guys with brown hair.

  5. One of my favourite movies ever!
    Also, Jelle and his boyfriend Amir are a lovely couple! :)

  6. Fiction’s job, whether in print or on the screen, is to present characters and tell their story. Please note: it is their story being told, not the audience’s.

    This unassuming little film does that job quite well. Pim’s sometimes dreamlike or confused responses – which have been criticized by some – generally suit his age, personality and situation. His hesitancies and mis-steps make him seem more real while informing the audience; they make NST a better film.

    At Pims’s presumed age (15ish) I was jerking off five times/day while fantasizing about sexy boys. I liked boys and I knew it, probably better than Pim does at the beginning of NST. Yet I was far too frightened, shamed and shy to initiate anything with any of them. If a pretty boy like Pim or a handsome guy like Gino had initiated something with me (didn’t happen, dammit), I could not have responded even as sensually as Pim does in this scene… not the first few times anyway. My first sexual encounters weren’t until 22yo – yet even then they wasn’t as sensual as this. The lack of full on, steamy sensuality underlines Pim’s still developing character. If he immediately began snogging and fucking like a porn star it would be sexy – I’d enjoy watching! – but it would be absurdly out of character.

    Satisfying the fantasies of audience members is not part of fiction’s job (except for porn, which NST is not). Criticizing a work of fiction for not doing this tells us very little, at least about the work.

  7. Do not understand. If a cine makes a kiss less than a kiss but gives us a presenting of it, are we not happy enough with the whole ? Do figure that if any one wants the real off some play, go try make out a real play out of ROMEO AND JULIET at a gay bar. Or, if you want real, go buy XXX. The movie ET is more sexy by way of its boy characters more than the stupid ET. Unless the stupid ET leaves itself behind to play with the other characters and fall in love …. Your anus, get that, Your Anus … plus several other sexy parts of that movie. .

  8. Years ago, for teenage boys, kissing just wasn’t done – even between gay boys. We J/O, we sucked, we swallowed, we rimmed, we fucked, we creampied, we hugged and stroked and spooned – but we didn’t kiss. Recreational, casual gay sex was one thing, being gay was another, but kissing was GAY and that was going too far! Can’t explain it in any way that makes sense nowadays, but that’s the way it was.

    1. “Can’t explain it in any way that makes sense nowadays, but that’s the way it was.”

      Seriously? It’s the difference between ‘raw’ sex and, what is that word i’m looking for? …. Oh, yeah, it’s romance. Kissing, at the very least, represents — even to the slightest degree, romance. And ignorant societies couldn’t or refuse to process same-sex romance — actual love.

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