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  1. charlie hebdo story is becoming more and more hilarious. it’s a black hole of western hypocrisy.

      1. @cornflake: “charlie hebdo story is becoming more and more hilarious. it’s a black hole of western hypocrisy.”

        @Old Dan: “How so?”

        Dan, I can’t believe you actually asked that question. cornflake couldn’t be more correct than that (although I wouldn’t have said “hilarious”; I would have preferred “pathetic”.)

        The West boasts of how we cherish freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of the press — that’s what we’re supposed to go to war for, isn’t it?

        But, we caved in to the terrorists (read: islam) during that fiasco of the Danish cartoons. We’re now caving in to the terrorists again (again, read: islam) in the aftermath of the tragedy of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons and subsequent publications. We’re saying, “Je suis Charlie,” but not meaning it publicly and politically.

        And, now we have this: http://www.thelocal.dk/20150214/shots-fired-at-lars-vilks-meeting-in-copenhagen

        “The French ambassdor to Denmark told AFP from inside the venue that shots rang out in the midst of a debate on Islam and free speech in Copenhagen.”

        Yes, cornflake is absolutely right. We’re (the West) are losing our sense of decency and protection of the rights that our country was found on.

        1. Wow! And I can’t believe you didn’t understand my question. It was an honest one. I wanted HIS point of view clarified before I replied.

          Here’s how I see this.

          There is a program I used to listen almost 365 days a year. For basically the last 15 years or so. Right after the Charlie Hebdo tragedy the host placed the blame squarely on the victims because of their cartoons and articles.

          So, just to make sure that I really knew what the real truth was all about I downloaded two PDFs. One is of Charlie Hebdo’s edition that came out BEFORE the attack. The second PDF was of Charlie Hebdo’s edition AFTER the attack.Both PDFs in french You see, I’m 100% fluent in both French and English. So, Carmelo, up yours.

          Cornflake’s comment is, at least in my own opinion vague as to what hypocrisy he was commenting upon. Was it simply the double standards that France holds when it comes to , ah, social abuse? Or was it an other case of blaming the victim?

          For example, those that accused Charlie Hebdo for what happened never took the time to read that magazine or are in total denial of what Charlie Hebdo stands for.

          One thing that Charlie Hebdo pointed out in a perfectly clear way was how Muslims were discriminated in France. Think about it. The magazine that was almost destroyed stood for the rights of Muslims.

          Meanwhile, the “social masters” are fomenting anger with their own recipe for disaster. They go after anyone and everyone that dares to use this natural right of Freedom Of Expression. Supposedly to defend freedom of expression. Now, on THAT point, if that is what Cornflake was pointing at I more than agree with him. But I still stand by what I said about which hypocisy was he addressing.

          Oh, about that conference in Copenhagen?

          30 minutes from now…

          The hall was packed full. On the stage were representatives of all faiths. The debate had been going on for an hour when it was now starting to get a bit overheated. And this is what happened.

          In the back of the stage was a huge old style chalkboard. A man walked up the centre isle and then got up on the stage and walked to the chalkboard. He was carrying a huge compass. Everyone in the room fell silent as they watched him.

          He proceeded to draw a perfect circle with his compass. Then he turned to the people he said I just drew a picture of Allah. Like the circle he has no start, no ending.

          He was immediately arrested for drawing an provocatively offensive cartoon.

          Meanwhile, a few months after that incident, all Muslim theocracies were stuck riding camels. The reason was that wheels, because they were perceived as a representation of Allah therefore were banned. Even pots and pans and kitchen plates and cups had to be square.

          As for the man that drew the offensive circle to this day his fate is still unknown.

        2. @Old Dan:
          “Wow! And I can’t believe you didn’t understand my question. It was an honest one. I wanted HIS point of view clarified before I replied.”

          Sorry if I misunderstood you, but the way you wrote it, it didn’t read [to me, anyway] the way you intended (by your above statement). It looks like you’re asking cornflake what was meant by his statement.

      2. @Dan:
        “One thing that Charlie Hebdo pointed out in a perfectly clear way was how Muslims were discriminated [against] in France.”

        Please elaborate on how muslims are discriminated against [as in your quote above, I added “against” because I assumed that is what you meant] when they refuse to assimilate into the French (and other country’s) societies and work to destroy the existing governments by attempting to get their [past society’s] sharia law enforced.

        Sorry, I don’t agree that they are “discriminated against” as the blacks were/are here in America.

      1. I did a very quick and convenient translation online, so it may not be totally accurate:

        Charlie Hebdo : Nantes, a 16 year old charged with ” incitement to terrorism ” on Facebook
        A 16 year old is charged with having published on his facebook page a drawing by ” advocating terrorism ” , the prosecution of minors Nantes decided to continue and requested his placement in a preliminary probation in his indictment
        Par Christophe Turgis Publié le 17/01/2015 | 10:49, mis à jour le 17/01/2015 | 18:13

        The prosecution of juveniles of Nantes decided to pursue a high school student in Nantes for ” advocating terrorism ” . The boy is believed to have posted on his Facebook account a drawing “representing a character with the Charlie -Hebdo newspaper, hit by bullets , accompanied by a commentary ironic .”

        The young man was taken into custody Thursday . It was presented to a judge for children for an indictment for ” advocating terrorism ” . The prosecutor on Friday asked its freedom under preliminary placement. With this, he knew that his young design could fall within the scope of the Act? This is the message that the prosecutor wants to Nantes paser to young people, making them aware of their responsibilities.

        Wednesday already Nantes a 14 year old girl had been placed under investigation for ” incitement to terrorism ” for having insulted tram control officers shouting ” We are the Kouachi sisters , we will look for Kalashnikovs .”

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        And, the first comment I noticed:

        Zoltán Tamáska • il y a 22 jours
        We demand his name. So we can put it on a “je suis…” badge.

    1. there is no freedom of expression in europe. there is only freedom of politically approved expression. we are allowed to say (and listen to and read and look at) only the things that the political elites have deemed appropriate.
      a drawing of the prophet muhammad that offends islamic morality is ‘our civilisational right’, but a drawing of a scantily dressed youth that offends christian morality is ‘perversion’ with legal consequences.

      and a few days ago, a man in croatia was arrested and fined for a drawing of a marijuana plant.

      the designated space for free speech and even free thought is rapidly diminishing.

      1. I guess it all started with this obscenity called political correctness. Then the U.K. came up with the equally obscene A.S.B.O. Antisocial Behaviour Order. Now that one is a real prize winner because it became the legal arm of political correctness. Of course so many books have come out with a warning of what the future might look like if we weren’t careful. Well, it’s worse than even 1984 or Animal Farm. Today we arrest kindergarten kids for drawing a gun or someone drawing a pot plant. The saddest part is that what you are describing isn’t only a European phenomenon., it’s world wide. Civilizations isn’t dying because of a meteor strike but because of a few idiots that love to see humans dance like puppets.

  2. “US Muslims gunned down by atheist in possible hate crime”

    This is nothing but bias, at this point. The evidence shows that the killer had longstanding issues with many people, regarding parking and noise, and that he was a hot-head about it. He was also a gun nut. In contrast, his online writings indicate that he defended Muslims (e.g. he supported the Muslims who wanted to open a center near “Ground Zero”). The only hate on display here is anti-atheism, which immediately latched onto the fact that he was an atheist, because if an atheist does something bad, it must be because of atheism, right? If you look at the news, people get shot and stabbed to death over parking spaces with shocking regularity.

    1. Funny you say that because you’ll find the same bias, if not worse, whenever a Muslim happens to be the one shooting. Every. Single. Time. So this is a nice reminder what it feels like to be on the other side of the fence.

      1. @JanJan (or numbnumb?):
        “Funny you say that because you’ll find the same bias, if not worse, whenever a Muslim happens to be the one shooting.”

        Actually, there is a huge difference between the two. Atheists don’t go shooting just because they’re atheists, it’s because of another reason (like parking spaces as above).

        But, when muslims are shooting (or otherwise violent, such as flying planes into buildings), it’s because they’re muslim (and “defending” that STUPID AND FALSE religion, and not for any other reason.

      2. Janjan:
        “What a stupid and ignorant generalisation…”

        No it isn’t …. it’s extremely accurate.

        When have you heard of atheists going around shooting at random or anything specific just because he’s an atheist?

        I’m as staunch an atheist as there ever is one….. but I don’t even think of going around with some gun waiting to shoot someone just because I’m an atheist (although there are several I wish were dead such as Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh).

        But when you hear of some muslims shooting people, it’s NEARLY ALWAYS because of their religion and their STUPID “need” to “defend” something about that ignorant religion.

        No, you are the one who shows your stupidity and also ignorant generalization.

    2. @Randy:
      “The only hate on display here is anti-atheism, which immediately latched onto the fact that he was an atheist, because if an atheist does something bad, it must be because of atheism, right?”

      Well said.

  3. Re: Parliament in Macedonia votes to ban marriage equality:
    Merely another backwards country enslaved by intolerant religious bigots.

    Re: Italy: majority opposed to gays adopting & marrying:
    Makes me wonder just how accurate that poll was. It seems to fly in the face of previous poll results. Otherwise, same as above.

    Re: Fourth trans woman murdered in US just this year:
    Not sure what to make of this one. I can’t seem to find any indication this was specifically a hate crime, or the cause of a fight. A suspect was later found dead in an apparent suicide. It’s possible they knew each other and had a falling-out. In any case, it’s extremely tragic.

    Re: Slovakia referendum to strengthen gay marriage ban fails:
    Good for them. The fact that only about 21% showed up to vote, despite most of them being conned by a bunch of religious idiots in The Alliance For Family. Probably goes to show most people there most likely just Don’t Care about the issue.

    Re: Swiss priest dismissed by bishop for blessing lesbian couple:
    Completely nonsensical and hypocritical. They have no problems blessing an LGBT person, but not two of them at the same time. They think nothing wrong with blessing animals, buildings, vehicles, guns; hell any damn object is all fair game. That is, unless you’re a gay couple. This is religious hate at its finest.

  4. MACEDONIA > So, what else is new? The Balkans have been a mess for a thousand years and a real disaster for much of that. This? Just a small step back. This too shall pass.

    ITALY > So, what else is new? Italy has been a mess for fifteen hundred years and a real disaster for much of that. This? Just a small step back. This too shall pass.

    TRANNY MURDERS > Shit happens, even in Frisco, where more than in most other places, being a tranny is supposed to be OK. So much for easy access to knives, and the PRC’s lack of effective knife control. Story says the killer left before police arrived. Ya think? He’s described as a tall black guy wearing a jacket and shorts. Narrows it down to a few million dudes.

    SLOVAKIA > A step forward.

    SWISS CATHOLICISM > It’s Ok to bless 2 queers as individuals, but not together as a couple. They’ll bless a gay boy kneeling at the altar, but not kneeling in front of a glory hole. (God I miss those. They were in everywhere back in the day.) It’s called “love the sinner, hate the sin.” The RCC is not a democracy. Don’t like it? Start your own church. You have my blessing. BTW, I didn’t know they even blessed guns. I’ve got a revolver with fixed sights that hits just a little low – I wonder if my priest can help.

    WESTERN VALUES FRANCE > Rotten kids! This is what happens when totalitarian liberalism and political correctness collides head on with liberty, reality and common sense. France is unraveling over it’s Muslim Question, Charles Martel and Godfrey De Bouillon are spinning in their graves. They need a First Amendment, or… another… Bonaparte.

    WESTERN VALUES UK > Who gives their name when they buy a magazine? How does that work? The UK needs more effective magazine control, and background checks for all readers. But be careful – registration is always the first step to confiscation. Always.

    UK LISTS JOURNALISTS > Just because you get a job with the press doesn’t mean you’re Her Majesty’s good servant. Your loyalty and affection might still reside elsewhere. Might be prudent it to keep an eye on…

    US MUSLIMS KILLED > These three students seemed like “good” Muslims – not (yet) radicalized and thoroughly assimilated. Sadly, they’re exactly the kind of people Jihadists like to kill. Five thousand attended their memorial service. I once lived in an apartment for a few years. I’ve visited friends and relatives living in apartments. Parking is always a bitch – usually 1 parking space per apartment and no place for guests. If there is more than 1 car in the household, or you’re having company, it’s a nightmare. Would I kill someone for constantly taking my space? Try me.

    MOCK ABDUCTION > You can pick your nose and you can pick your friends, but you can’t pick your relatives. This boys’ are all moving up the creek to the big gated community as guests of the state. I hope they learned their lesson, and the boy learned his – stranger danger!

    1. Brilliant commentary!

      I thought for a moment or two I was reading something from Maureen Dowd, who despite her political bent, is a wonderful essayist.

      I chuckled especially loud at the following:

      “SWISS CATHOLICISM > It’s Ok to bless 2 queers as individuals, but not together as a couple. They’ll bless a gay boy kneeling at the altar, but not kneeling in front of a glory hole. (God I miss those. They were in everywhere back in the day.)”

      The imagery of a gay boy kneeling at the altar made me wonder whether he would have been honing his skills on the parish priest in preparation for a later visit to the local glory hole.

      And yes, it’s hard to find a decent glory hole these days! Sad.

      As far as the media hysteria surrounding the Muslim murders by the North Carolina nut-job over a parking space, I wish they would have devoted half as much time covering the Fort Hood massacre by the erstwhile Jihadi doctor who gunned down all those soldiers in the name of Allah, in what the Obama administration then characterized as “workplace violence”.

      Keep up the good work Mr. Lips!

  5. @Horselips
    “I hope they learned their lesson, and the boy learned his – stranger danger!”
    ❦More so he learned that he can’t trust his own freaky white trash family.
    Hope they enjoy their own scared straight for real, no mock there!
    Good riddance to that crew he’s best without them.

  6. I declare a “tie” for commentary between daveboy and horsey. Both are pretty good …. one is better on one line, the other is better on another link.

    daveboy, keep it up …. it’s good reading what you have to say.

  7. @Carmello

    “”carmelo France
    2015-02-15 at 16:50

    @Old Dan : Je suis Charlie. Up wherever you want it.””

    Tu sais, utiliser “Je suis Charlie” pour lancer des invectives demontre un manque de classe de premier niveau.

    La realite est que, du moin, ici sur Milkboys, nous sommes tous Charlie. Et cela chaque fois que nous pressons “Enter” pour envoyer un commentaire ou nous allons contre le grain d’une certaine partie de la population. Exactement comme les articles et dessins de Charlie Hebdo. Comme les membres de Charlie Hebdo nous sommes parfaitement conscients qu’ils y a des gents qui n’aimeraient rien d’autre que de nous eradiquer. En fait, c’est exactement ce terme qui fut utilise a mon sujet et au sujet de tous les LGBT. Eradiques comme dans les camps de la mort…

    Camerlo, je n’utiliserai jamais “Je suis Charlie” pour appuyer des insultes envers qui que ce sois.

    Point #1= Je suis parfaitement, du moin dans ma petite tete,(LOL) bilingue.

    Point #2= Contrairement a toi je comprends parfaitement que ce n’est pas donne a tout le monde d’etre bilingue.

    Point #3= J’ai fait d’horribles fautes de grammaire mais je m’en fout eperdument dans ce cas ci!

    Point #4= Ne jamais utiliser “Je suis Charlie” pour insulter qui que ce soit.

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    @Carmelo

    “” carmelo France
    2015-02-15 at 16:50

    @Old Dan : Je suis Charlie. Up wherever you want it.

    You know, using “Je suis Charlie” to back up throwing insults shows a huge lack of class.

    Truth is that , at least here on Milkboys, we are all Charlie. And that each time we press “Enter” to send a comment that goes against the grain of a certain part of the population.Exactly like the articles and drawings of Charlie Hebdo. Like the members of Charlie Hebdo we are all aware that there are people that would like nothing else but to eradicate us. Actually, that is the exact term that was used against me and all LGBTs. Eradicate just like in the death camps.

    Carmelo, I will never use “Je suis Charlie” to back up an insult.

    *********************

    About the death camps comment.

    On an other website talking about the new .LGBT domain I said that I had misgivings about that domain as I saw it as a possible way to hide us in a new kind of closet. Some of the comments I saw were disturbing to say the least. Yes, it also included the word eradicate.

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